Dinghy survey
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Dinghy survey
I am curious...
What size and type of dinghy do you keep on your PDQ 32?
What size and type of outboard do you use with it?
Please share.
Mike
What size and type of dinghy do you keep on your PDQ 32?
What size and type of outboard do you use with it?
Please share.
Mike
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Re: Dinghy survey
We have an Achilles 9'6" wood floor model with a Yamaha 4cy 4HP. I hate it!!!
I'm looking to replace it with a FRP/Hypalon model. I've picked up a used Yamaha 2cy 15HP that needs work and I'll try it with the Achilles but it's probably overkill.
If anyone sees a good deal on a RHIB ...
I'm looking to replace it with a FRP/Hypalon model. I've picked up a used Yamaha 2cy 15HP that needs work and I'll try it with the Achilles but it's probably overkill.
If anyone sees a good deal on a RHIB ...
Re: Dinghy survey
9' inflatable "sport boat" with floorboards and and inflatable keel.
3.5 hp Merc. 2st
JUST fits between the transoms, after I cut the bow handle off.
Will plane with me at ~ 15 knots if I get my weight forward (make a tiller extention--it is safer to sit a bit further forward) and have it pumped up hard, but not with 2 people. Also will not plane if there is ANY water in the fuel, ANY water under the floorboards, or any extra junk in the boat. I would vote for 6 hp being about right for these boats.
Also, a wierd thing; when I painted the boat I added a rub strip under the transom to take wear from mooring lines. It is a vinyl stair edging, carefully faired to the bottom of the boat with PU caulk. Well, it seems to make for a cleaner water separation at the transom and a BIG increase in planing ability. If I had known it would make a difference, I would have considered some sort of trim tab extention. Very weird.
3.5 hp Merc. 2st
JUST fits between the transoms, after I cut the bow handle off.
Will plane with me at ~ 15 knots if I get my weight forward (make a tiller extention--it is safer to sit a bit further forward) and have it pumped up hard, but not with 2 people. Also will not plane if there is ANY water in the fuel, ANY water under the floorboards, or any extra junk in the boat. I would vote for 6 hp being about right for these boats.
Also, a wierd thing; when I painted the boat I added a rub strip under the transom to take wear from mooring lines. It is a vinyl stair edging, carefully faired to the bottom of the boat with PU caulk. Well, it seems to make for a cleaner water separation at the transom and a BIG increase in planing ability. If I had known it would make a difference, I would have considered some sort of trim tab extention. Very weird.
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Re: Dinghy survey
M & R,
We have a 9' Zodiac FR (Fast Roller) soft floor with inflatable keel that we bought with a Yamaha 8HP 4-stroke motor. The combo runs great, we added Dole fins to the motor and the inflatable has removeable trim tabs that level the ride. For our needs we rarely need that much power (except when my "tiny frame" is aboard and get up on plane). The boat comes with a two stage pump and the floor is really pretty firm for a soft bottom, we've had it about 4 years now and it's holding up well.
Downsides:
1) With the soft bottom you can't climb up the motor like a RIB unless someone is forward in the boat - it's too light and will flip over (I've been known to put a loop in the painter and do my best walrus imitation over the bow).
2) We found that the combined weight with the 8hp is too heavy for our Kato Marine davits (boat 60lbs + motor 90lbs). So for now we keep the 8HP in our shed and mounted a used 3.5 Yamaha 2-cycle (29lbs), that combo doesn't overload the davits and does fine around the DC Channel or for short runs to shore.
If you're shopping new in the smaller engines, everyone I know that has the Honda 2.5 4-stroke really likes them, very dependable and only 25lbs. If we decide to take a long trip we'll probably upgrade the davits for carrying the 8hp, in wind or weather the Yamaha 3.5 would be pretty minimal. We've had pretty good luck with the Yamaha's they both run well and have been dependable.
I've had to change my old rule, "Never own an outboard heavier than you can throw overboard after the 20th pull..."
Mike
We have a 9' Zodiac FR (Fast Roller) soft floor with inflatable keel that we bought with a Yamaha 8HP 4-stroke motor. The combo runs great, we added Dole fins to the motor and the inflatable has removeable trim tabs that level the ride. For our needs we rarely need that much power (except when my "tiny frame" is aboard and get up on plane). The boat comes with a two stage pump and the floor is really pretty firm for a soft bottom, we've had it about 4 years now and it's holding up well.
Downsides:
1) With the soft bottom you can't climb up the motor like a RIB unless someone is forward in the boat - it's too light and will flip over (I've been known to put a loop in the painter and do my best walrus imitation over the bow).
2) We found that the combined weight with the 8hp is too heavy for our Kato Marine davits (boat 60lbs + motor 90lbs). So for now we keep the 8HP in our shed and mounted a used 3.5 Yamaha 2-cycle (29lbs), that combo doesn't overload the davits and does fine around the DC Channel or for short runs to shore.
If you're shopping new in the smaller engines, everyone I know that has the Honda 2.5 4-stroke really likes them, very dependable and only 25lbs. If we decide to take a long trip we'll probably upgrade the davits for carrying the 8hp, in wind or weather the Yamaha 3.5 would be pretty minimal. We've had pretty good luck with the Yamaha's they both run well and have been dependable.
I've had to change my old rule, "Never own an outboard heavier than you can throw overboard after the 20th pull..."
Mike
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Re: Dinghy survey
We have a 8' Walker Bay PVC inflatable and a 4 HP 4 stroke Tohatsu outboard. What I'd really like is a nice small RIB with a 9.9 on it. I'm not so sure our davits, or our boat and especially our budget would like that though.
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Re: Dinghy survey
We have the Hypalon Avon RIB. I would probably buy the Walker Bay RIB next. If you check http://www.inflatablexperts.com in Eastport, or Criag's list, there may be some good deals to be had. This areas is really good for Craig's list.
Eric & Bonnie Epstein
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Annapolis, MD
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Annapolis, MD
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Re: Dinghy survey
We have an 8' rigid Walker Bay with tube kit and sail package. It is a hoot to sail at anchorages. A 2.5 hp Mercury is all it needs.
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Re: Dinghy survey
M & R,
You can always go this route...
http://www.flyingbeachboat.com/flight.htm - waaaay cool...
Mike & Linda
You can always go this route...
http://www.flyingbeachboat.com/flight.htm - waaaay cool...
Mike & Linda
Mike & Linda
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Re: Dinghy survey
http://www.sunsetinflatables.com/ab9ululrib.html 68# hypolon/aluminum Rib w/ 8hp tohatsu 4s. Lightest rib I could find, Works good, costs a lot.
Sandy Daugherty "Page 83" PDQ 36026
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Re: Dinghy survey
We have an Achilles 8'6", wood floor with a 2HP 2 stroke Suzuki. I have only used it a little as we have not cruised the boat yet but so far I've spent more time fixing stubborn leaks and the wood floor than anything else. It's slow and does not steer well with the flat bottom and I would not buy another. As soon as the boat budget is replenished, I'll be looking for another so I very much appreciate all the posts to this thread.
Fred
Fred
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Re: Dinghy survey
I just put Sandy's link for the new alum AB at the top of my wish list! But that will have to wait until next year.
Eric & Bonnie Epstein
s/v Desert Star, PDQ36, Hull 49
Annapolis, MD
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Annapolis, MD
Re: Dinghy survey
We have a West Marine 310 RIB and an 8HP 2 STROKE Yamaha and are very pleased.
On our 32 the dinghy davits hold the dinghy length on top of the sugar scoop and still allow acess.
Go for the ridged floor for durability and the 2 stroke for HP with low weight. We use a single block attached to the boom to hoist the engine from the rail mount on and off the dinghy.
We can keep up with the 9.9 4 strokes.
Pic at http://www.sailblogs.com/member/midori/ ... pid=160858
Brian
MIDORI
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On our 32 the dinghy davits hold the dinghy length on top of the sugar scoop and still allow acess.
Go for the ridged floor for durability and the 2 stroke for HP with low weight. We use a single block attached to the boom to hoist the engine from the rail mount on and off the dinghy.
We can keep up with the 9.9 4 strokes.
Pic at http://www.sailblogs.com/member/midori/ ... pid=160858
Brian
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Brian
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Re: Dinghy survey
Thanks everyone. We went to look at a used Caribe 9' RIB this evening. The guy really should have pumped it up and cleaned it. I think we'll pass on this one.
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Re: Dinghy survey
Does anyone know the weight limitations for the dinghy davits? I don't have any specs on them in my brochure packets that came with the boat from the PO. We are currently looking at new dinghy models and are impressed with the new AB aluminium RIBs, although the price is a bit steep but maybe worth it for the weight savings. The AB 9'6'' with a Yamaha 9.9 is about $7K and combined weight (boat is 105 and motor is 90) is just under 200lbs. That would place about 150 lbs on the davit holding the motor end. It would seem that the davits could hold this but I just want to make sure. Ideally, I would like to be able to store it with motor still attached for ease of use and theft protection. I see Midori removes the motor from the dinghy. Any comments appreciated. fred