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Trampoline replaced

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:00 am
by MIDORI
MIDORI has had her tramp replaced, www.multihullnets.com which is Sunrise Yacht Products of Pinellas Park Florida. I dealt with Matt, who provided excellent assistance. 727 526 9288

I have the old tramp available, the net is almost indestructible, it is the sewn bolt rope which degrades. Any takers?

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:09 pm
by thinwater
I'm still using the first tramp from my Stiletto 27 (1079) to cover a fishpond in the winter. The stitching is shaky, but I swear the net is good enough to put on another boat to this day. and I've jusrt stored it in a pile under the porch for the last 25 years.

I'm sure the net is still fine. In fact, I have a sail for my current boat that is just waiting on me to replace the bolt rope. Most often, it is the details.

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:15 am
by bg5w
Brian

What did you pay for the new netting, and is the old netting still available?
Bob Gruber
Island Time 32

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:13 pm
by Jwood1
I checked out multihullsnets.com and they actually have the PDQ32 listed on their price sheet, very cool. It looks like the Square Hole Mesh is the closest to OEM and runs about $1000, not including lacing or hardware. May I ask what type of netting you got and are you happy with it? Did you do the installation yourself or did they do it?
Jerry

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:50 pm
by MIDORI
MIDORI PDQ 32 tramp.
I am pleased with the new tramp, Matt at Sunrise Yacht was excellent to work with.
The all in price with freight and tax was just under 1,200.
My old tramp would not be reusable on a PDQ.

Definitely go for the Dema lacing.

Sorry for the delay, I was out of town when I received your inquiry.

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:05 pm
by thinwater
Why Dyneema lacing?

It is more UV and abrasion resistant... mostly. This depends on the specific product--single braids, like Amsteel, are not abrasion resistant in this application. Dyneema also places greater stress on the fabric, and that is the expensive part. On boats where the lacing bears on fiberglass or plastic, Dyneema has been known to saw through it. I'm wondering if I would rather have the cheap, easy to replace part, wear instead.

I just wondered what the reasoning was, or whether it was based on some experience. Over the years, with many multies, I've used many polyester DBs but never Dyneema. The longest lasting was a product made for climbing and arborists. You see, yacht braids are a compromise between chafe resistance and ease of spliciung, which results in a cover that is not as tight as should be for best wear (I have also done several types of lab chafe testing for publication). Polyester arborist and static climbing lines have much tighter covers for improved wear, since the are not spliced. They are nearly impossible to splice, but wear better in this type of application. (Just to be clear, I am NOT talking about nylon climbing ropes, which are stretchy and also the wrong diameter.)

I'll be needing to relace next years, so I am weighing my options.

Re: Trampoline replaced / Dyneema lacing

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:25 pm
by MIDORI
I chose Dyneema because it had been recommended as being easier to use.
I recommended the use of Dyneema because in my use I found it to be much easier to work with.
Fortunately I do not have direct contact with fiberglass, the hull to net is a D shackle to a stainless grommet.

I thank you for the issues you raised, I will pay particular attention for signs of wear and report back to this forum.

Brian

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:56 am
by Jwood1
Brian
Did Multihullnets do the installation or did you? If the latter, how tough a job is it to get it nice and tight?

Jerry

Re: Trampoline replaced

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:43 pm
by MIDORI
Good afternoon Jerry.
I did my own installation. On this install I used Dyneema. I found the Dyneema easy to work with but as mentioned by Drew Fry, pay attention for unexpected fraying. I used "D" shackles rather than looping the Dyneema threw the fiberglass. I found getting a tight tramp easier with Dyneema easier than using Stay Set.
Prior to replacing my tramp, I had replaced the lacing a few years ago with Stay Set. The Stay Set worked well, however I still prefer the Dyneema.
The web page for Multiullnets also have lacing instructions.
I would recommend you try the project, it turned out to be pretty straight forward.

S/V MIDORI
32034

Brian