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Interior seating

Posted by Harriet Eisen on December 13, 2000 at 15:32:00:

I may be the only PDQ owner with this concern, but here goes...I can't seem to
find a comfortable spot inside to sit. The salon seating is very shallow (front
to back), which makes it hard to get "comfy" for reading. Has anyone made any
modifications to the interior seating? Has anyone wanted to?

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Re: Interior seating david west 09:40:14 12/17/00 (3)
Re: Interior seating Kevin Smith 11:46:48 12/18/00 (0)
Re: Interior seating jack coulter 11:13:45 12/18/00 (1)
Re: Interior seating Dick Monaghan 11:53:59 12/07/01 (0)
Re: Interior seating Marc Gershel 14:17:35 12/16/00 (1)
Re: Interior seating Harriet Eisen 18:55:24 12/19/00 (0)
Re: Interior seating Martin McKim 06:53:44 12/15/00 (1)
Re: Interior seating Harvey Griggs 16:29:59 01/11/01 (0)

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Posted by david west on December 17, 2000 at 09:40:00:
In Reply to: Interior seating posted by Harriet Eisen on December 13, 2000 at
15:32:00:


Harriet, You are quite right about this problem. A redesigned cabin mould which
included some nice bucket seats would be an improvement. However I have been
able to overcome this seating problem to my satisfaction. In fact I am preparing
a review of improvements to be sent to the association which if they think it
worthwhile they can put in the magazine. Below is part of the initial draft
which might be of some help. There is a bit on the main cabin table which if you
do these mob\difications you will have to cut down the width by a few inches

Unfortunately I do not appear to be able to send photos to this forum so I will
send some to your email address:[/i]

The main cabin

The main cabin provides generous seating accomodation. However if you have spent
a couple of days in a back creek of the Chesapeake reading a book while waiting
for the rain to stop you will begin to fidgit. The seating is not so good that
you will find yourself nodding off after lunch unless you go to your berth

Although I have been know to resort to such a move, I do enjoy acomfortable
chair. This is a problem in nearly all production boats,although I have seen
illustrations of the Northeast 40 by Cabo Rico,where one version has a little
den with a couple of very comfortable looking bucket chairs.

Solution
In the photograph you can see that I have built a snug chair into both corners
of the U -shaped bench. Between the chairs I have built a light compartment of a
3/4" cherry framewith 3/16 ply panels and a 3/8"ply access lid.(Useful for
cereal packets and odds and ends with acceaa to the water tank through the base
formed by the bench).The top forms one "arm" of the chair with a useful adjacent
surface area. The other arm of the chair is formed by a wedge shaped construct
of the same materials.A bar cutting the corner across and under the front of the
seat cushion gives it support. The increased depth of the chair (26") allows for
thicker and contoured upholstery at the back with a seating depth of19". The
result is comfortably accomodating. I had thought of putting padding ovet the
arms but this now seems redundant. The chair between the "arms" is 191/2" wide
and the arms 111/2" above the bench top

The measurements for all this are fairly critical if one is still going to
retain seating for four at table using the remaining bench. We have 36 inches of
bench left at each side, which is useable in this way.

The Table

I elected to order the boat with an adjustible table that could be converted to
a double berth.This is a very nice idea in concept but did not work out well in
practice. The table was difficult to adjust, jamming causing impatience in my
guests. A second problem was that the hinge screws stressed by the load of a
sleeping crew, tended to pop out of their seating and would not bite into the
ply of the table top (I have noticed the same problem in the ply of the
bulkheads which I presume is due to a need for light weight material). Finally
the table was too wide, of necessity as its use as a bed, the width being even
more of a nuisence now that you had to squeeze past to get to the new corner
chairs. I wanted to keep the adjustable legs rather than a solid base, so that I
had enough room for my own legs

I narrowed the central width of the table by cutting it both edges to a width of
20 inches, similarly the flaps to a width of.10 inches each. I like the existing
hinges and was able to mahe a jig for routing out a new seating for them. I was
careful to place the jig so that the routing of the flap matched that of the
central table an was amazed to find that I got a perfect line up and an
excellent result

Additional weight of the new was off set by removing the strip supports of the
old bed conversion. Apart from the new upholstery, nearly a thousand dollars,
there was little cost.

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Re: Interior seating

Posted by Kevin Smith on December 18, 2000 at 11:46:00:
In Reply to: Re: Interior seating posted by david west on December 17, 2000 at
09:40:00:


If you email me the photos, I will put them with your message. As admin, I can
do that

- Kevin Smith


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Posted by jack coulter on December 18, 2000 at 11:13:00:
In Reply to: Re: Interior seating posted by david west on December 17, 2000 at
09:40:00:


Hi David - could you possibly send the photos via e mail to me also, I'm very
interested in changing out the seating arangement in "Mojo". Thanks much! Jack

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Re: Interior seating Dick Monaghan 11:53:59 12/07/01 (0)

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Posted by Dick Monaghan on December 07, 2001 at 11:53:00:
In Reply to: Re: Interior seating posted by jack coulter on December 18, 2000 at
11:13:00:


Hi David

I, too, would be interested in seeing the photos of your seating changes. The
side benches are not great for reading or two people watching the TV, which I
keep on the upper starboard corner benind the settee. It wants a better way to
go. Please e-mail your photos if its not too much bother.

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Posted by Marc Gershel on December 16, 2000 at 14:17:00:
In Reply to: Interior seating posted by Harriet Eisen on December 13, 2000 at
15:32:00:


Hi Harriet, Good question. I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with
something. What table do you have? Mine is the one with the built-in cabinet
w/drawers. I think it might be a major project to change, but maybe some of our
very creative owners can come up with something

Take care, Marc

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Re: Interior seating Harriet Eisen 18:55:24 12/19/00 (0)

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Posted by Harriet Eisen on December 19, 2000 at 18:55:00:
In Reply to: Re: Interior seating posted by Marc Gershel on December 16, 2000 at
14:17:00:


We also have the table with the drawers, which I find very useful. Since we
don't drink, we converted the lower drawer to accommodate my dishes and
silverware, so that everything is right there for setting the table. We have
thought about putting in an adjustable table, but not to increase the number of
bunks; rather, we were trying to come up with a way to have more of a "coffee
table" during the day and a dinner table in the evening. I think it would be
workable, especially if we reverse the hinges on the side flaps so that they are
vertical when not in use for dining. If you have any ideas on this, I'd love to
hear from you.

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Posted by Martin McKim on December 15, 2000 at 06:53:00:
In Reply to: Interior seating posted by Harriet Eisen on December 13, 2000 at
15:32:00:


You're not alone Harriet! It's on our long list of 'things to do'. We've some
ideas, but haven't put any into practice yet.

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Re: Interior seating Harvey Griggs 16:29:59 01/11/01 (0)

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Posted by Harvey Griggs on January 11, 2001 at 16:29:00:
In Reply to: Re: Interior seating posted by Martin McKim on December 15, 2000 at
06:53:00:


Hi Martin,
This is a response to the statement of a 32 owner by a soon-to-be 32 owner (for
the third time!!). I agree with you. There is a problem when you do a design:[/i]

what type of customer do you provide for? We opted to provide for two kids
berths in the salon, either side of the table, yet, like you we normally cruise
with one couple or, at the most, two. My solution is 6 (at least!) large
cushions varying from 2' to 3' square. These help you make your own nest!
Regards to all, Harvey
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